This poor and somewhat embarrassing photo dug out of my ancient archives supports the point of this column. Last year we got a pic of this spike still in velvet around October 10 (date on the pic is wrong). But if you see a Spike on a 5.5 or 6.5 year old body, more than likely he may always be a Spike? It was once commonly believed that, “Once a spike, always a spike.” But research indicates that this isn’t necessarily true. From there, Buffy conducted her relationship with Spike—which was mostly sexual, at first—in secret. Really? Buffy's relationship with Spike began gradually in Buffy the Vampire Slayer season 5, but didn't culminate in anything substantial until season 6, when the two shared a kiss after the acclaimed musical episode, "Once More With Feeling". Everybody has heard the old line,”once a spike, always a spike.” It’s been proven time and time again to be a myth but some things die hard. Back to top. Bear and Elk Hunting Forum. I'm not a believer in "Once a spike, ALWAYS a spike" but in this case it might be true. Turkey Hunting. Jan 20, 2007 #5. Twitter. Spikes are almost always young bucks wearing their first set of antlers. True or false? 0 0. It just can't be blamed on poor genetics. But the OP's question was: "once a spike ALWAYS as spike, T or F??" Most always they do catch up, so if they do not they are the exception not the rule. Inlines & Percussions Talk . He asked. “A lot of people believe that a spike will have a spike rack throughout its life, but the research says that’s simply not true. "Yeah, but once a spike, always a spike," he said. your password Well I may have mispoken a bit in my first post...nothing is "proven" to be set in stone fact. SHARE. Facebook. They may, on average, grow smaller antlers (debatable) but most of them will become at least branch antlered bucks if allowed to live. Some think that once a spike, always a spike. In the individual ,or the habitat. Others say that a spike is your 1st year buck/bull then the next year a fork, then so on..and so on...continuing to a trophy racked animal. Great Article. we have a 3 point rule state wide, so it's not even legal to kill them anyways. Facebook. NOYDB BANNED. I told him that as part of our management program there are regulations on the antler size of bucks that you can take. The Product Owner allocates a little bit of the team’s capacity now, ahead of when the story needs to be delivered, so that when the story comes into the sprint, the team knows what to do. I have killed 2 spikes this year, both are mature deer (3-4 year). [Re: Leonardo] #6390739 08/01/16 09:48 PM: Joined: Apr 2007. So my dad wants venison on the table and my last 3 times out i could have shot these 3 different spikes and i keep passing because i NEVER shoot small bucks, but my dad said once a spike, always a spike and then i just saw a post where a guy shot a spike and he said that same spike … New Hunters and Need Help with the Hunt. Tools of the Trade . Metroplex. Charles Alsheimer did a very interesting piece on a very unique piece of ground in upstate New York. Hunters are better informed these days but there is still a lot of misunderstanding about spike bucks. SHARE. But the OP's question was: "once a spike ALWAYS as spike, T or F??" I was talking to a friend the other day about how our seasons were going. A friend of mine emailed it to me and I thought it was very well done. Big Game Hunting. "Why didn't you shoot them"? 99% of them are 1-2 1/2 year old bucks with 12+ inches of antler growth. It’s easy to say “Once a spike, always a spike,” but people who live and breathe this stuff will tell you, it’s not quite that simple when deciding whether to cull spikes off your hunting property. It's anyone's guess why that upsurd or ridiculous rumor started (once a spike always a spike). Not always but if they do not catch up that would or is a rarity. Jan 20, 2007 #6. On deer farms, they get young buck spikes, even with a 180 class father. spikes; Uncategorized; Once a Spike, Always a Spike: Deer Hunting’s Big Myth. Yearling spikes are not a concern. Some spikes are just late born fawns from the previous year, usually birthed by yearlings, conceived during the second or third rut. Welcome! This article may have been shared before here so forgive me if it has. The pedicles provide the structural base for the future development of antlers. Article by Deer & Deer Hunting. Some spikes are genetically inferior but even those don't necessarily remain spikes in following years. 46 members in the QDM community. 6. I have seen it 1st hand on the deer farm at LSU. James Kroll did this study back in the late 80's by taking a spike that was captured, and let him grow for the next 5 years. ORIGINAL POST. Once a Spike Always a Spike? I have posted a link to an article. of late. Once a Spike, Always a Spike: It's Deer Hunting's Big Myth ive heard over the years once a spike always a spike. Article from deeranddeerhunting.com. [Re: Leonardo] #6390739 08/01/16 09:48 PM: Joined: Apr 2007. I have heard old timers ask us to shoot the spikes off of their property while hunting as to remove the small bucks from their gene pool on their land. The answer to that is CLEARLY and DEFINITIVELY" NO! Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? 669. 12/9/14 @ 5:09 PM. Let me know what Yall think! Field Gear and Gadgets . ok what has people thinking that a spike is once a spike and always will be a spike or small buck if you belive it its not true Oct 5, 2017 - This Pin was discovered by Linda Alcorn. Forum Rules, Suggestions, Troubleshooting. I saw that article also. White-tailed deer tend to grow antlers that are fairly well-balanced. A spike as an investment the Product Owner makes to figure out what needs to be built and how the team is going to build it — in advance of actually building it. Once a Spike, Always a Spike: It's Deer Hunting's Big Myth. They may, on average, grow smaller antlers (debatable) but most of them will become at least branch antlered bucks if allowed to live. Posts: 48,623. White-tailed deer tend to grow antlers that are fairly well-balanced. Jan 20, 2007 #5. Discussion in 'Crossbow Hunting Room' started by warthog67, Nov 6, 2008. warthog67 Guest. By huntadmin - October 27, 2016. The spikes that show up on your land likely wasn't born on your land, they probably came from a few miles away when their doe mother pushed them away. Macy, thank you for answering these critical questions we hunters face every season. Or expected to throw spikes the following year. How can listeners get in touch with you to learn about your wildlife services? 0. That is, one side looks pretty much like the other. New Members . Can culling bucks with a spike on one side "get them out of the gene pool" or is this just one of deer hunting's long-held and untrue myths? It was a spike for the first picture and grew into a 170 class buck. The little spike grew into a booner, just proving that it is usually caused by a lack of minerals and nutition. I have heard that, but I was just wondering if it is true. There is always some different factors, but for the most part, it is caused by a lack of nutrition. 801. Where did the notion of "once a spike, always a spike" come from? your own Pins on Pinterest Noted deer authority Charles Alzheimer once raised a spike on his N.Y. farm at six years old it was a Massive twelve pointer! Log into your account. your username. I ask because we have a goofy buck … Discover (and save!) Let's get this debate started! Everything Deer. Yes , the odd buck will be a spike more than once , but are not common unless something is really way out of whack. LINK This photographer was able to follow the journey of this buck throughout his life and show his growth over the years. Antler size has more to do with stress levels and nutrition in the 1st 2 years than it does with genetics. “Once a spike, always a spike.” Hardly. Hope that's not the case cause I have around 15 small bucks on my place that go from a 1 point, to a spike, 3 point, and several 4 points with a lot of junk on them. Flintlock talk. General Board. Unicoidawg Moderator. Don't know of such a regular occurrence around Mi. Anyone have any idea? Posts: 47,284. Once a Spike, always a Spike. Back when a hunter’s only question was “Does he have horns,” we filled lots of tags with spikes … Archery Hunting. By huntadmin - October 18, 2017. Jan 20, 2007 #6. True or false? A focus on Quality … It will interesting in seeing what he is next year. He was able to get photos of one buck with every rack he ever wore starting with his spikes. 0. RE: once a spike always a spike? Rules and Announcements. I have been told that a spike is a sign of poor genetics and that the formulation of antlers will not change over that deer's life. Twitter. Can someone answer that question for me from the biology standpoint? Once a spike always a spike? That is, one side looks pretty much like the other. Sponsors . Herd density, quality of habitat, amount of rain, mast conditions the previous year, is the doe mother a yearling with her first fawn. SUBSCRIBE SUBSCRIBE ADD TO FAV ORTIES. Once a Spike, Always a Spike Posted by Shepherd88 on 3/16/15 at 9:44 am. “The ‘once a spike, always a spike’ maxim should be dead, but unfortunately it’s not,” said Lindsay Thomas of the Quality Deer Management Association. So before I start smoking spikes, I’m focusing my efforts on running down the number of mouths my environment has to support. Once a spike not always a spike....I'll try and find the issue and post it.... Unicoidawg Click to expand... i hope you can find the issue,love to read it.thanks . He asked what I had been seeing and I mentioned I had seen about 3 spikes. This year he is almost exactly the same. /r/QDM: News, resources, and discussion about creating better habitats and healthier wildlife. Metroplex. There's so many factors that determine why a spike is a spike. The answer to that is CLEARLY and DEFINITIVELY" NO! Re: Once a Spike always a Spike?? Messages: 112 Likes Received: 6. 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